THE TOBIAS CHANNELS
Questions and Answers
A transcript of questions and answers at the Crimson Circle gathering,
February 12, 2000 Coal Creek Canyon, Colorado
TOBIAS: And so it is, my dear friends, we return to this energy (from the channeling earlier in the evening). We return to this sacred space. Now before we begin with our question and answer session for this night, we simply remind you again that this is the "classroom of the new energy," that you have given yourselves in service to be here, to be the first to begin working with and integrating all that is new.
From the beginning of our channels there have been two themes of the Crimson Council. First is that there are many changes that are occurring, and certainly you have seen this in your lives, in your own world. The changes have come from the work that you have done, the work with the understandings of the light and dark. The changes continue to happen. As you know, many times when there are changes occurring, this causes difficulty or conflict in your own life. It is not because of anything that you have done wrong. It is not because of judgement of Spirit, but many of the challenges are because you have simply asked to be there, asked to be the ones to know of the workings of all things. And now you are the ones who asked to be the first to understand and to work with the new energies.
From the beginning of our discussions with you, we have also said that you are never alone. As many times as you have felt that way - that you are walking the path alone -you should know that there have been many, many entities supporting and surrounding you. There have been your guides. There have been angels, archangels, and now your runners. There is a full entourage that is here. You are never alone, my friends. Perhaps that is the perception from being on your side of the veil. If you could see the entire picture, if you could see all that gather here on this day! There are aspects of your past lives that gather here. There are the ones who were your guides that gather here. There are teachers from all parts of the angelic realms. They are here in support of you, but as we have said, they cannot do it for you. They are simply here in support and love.
Now your runners are here to respond to your command, to your intent, to fulfill your desire and your service. If you are working in the new energy in the spirit of service, you will see the results happen very quickly when you call your runners into action. If you are doing this for selfish reasons – and none here would have that intent, but if there were those that did – they would not see a reaction. There are many templates of energy that have been set up that would not allow this to occur. You, the ones who are gathered here and reading these word, and who are in service, as long as you continue to work in that energy, you will see things happen very, very quickly.
Now before we answer your questions- or attempt to (chuckle) - we ask you several questions on this night. We ask you, "What does it feel like?" We do not know. When you are going through your day and you are going through your challenges… when you are going through your experiences, tell us what it feels like. Tell us how you feel and what is needed. We ask you, "What are you thinking?" Contrary to what you may think, we do not read minds. We can tap into your energy when you allow us, but tell us what you think. Express that to us. Talk to us. Tell us what it is that you need to continue on your journey. Sometimes there is the feeling that you are not deserving, that you are not worthy. We simply ask you to communicate to us what it is that you need. When you do, a whole series of actions begins to take place. As you simply walk the path in pain and in struggle and feeling alone, we must allow you to feel that way. We must allow you to experience that. Communicate with us. Begin to communicate with yourself. Tell us how you feel, what you need. Share with us your joys and sorrows. As we said earlier this day, this is the classroom of the new energy. Together we will learn.
Now we will begin the questions and answers.
QUESTION: I have two questions for you, Tobias, and an answer for you. The answer that I have is for the question that you just asked, "what do we need?" Those of us that are walking this path … we need to know that even though we are walking this path and we do feel the pain, we do feel the sorrow… we need to know that we are properly aligned with Spirit, with the core Spirit, the Great Spirit, the Creator. We need to know that, even though we are walking this path, that those who may be hurt that are in the old energy, "are we correct?" This leads into my first question of relationships that many of us here and those who we even counsel that are in dichotomous relationships where you have the new energy, the fourth dimension, allied with the old energy, the third dimension. It’s holding us back because of possibly a misplaced sense of love or true sense of love, but we are not moving and not accomplishing. The second question that I have: You said that we are breaking new ground at the beginning of your channeling, that we are breaking new ground for Spirit. Are we going into that with a full entourage that will help us out, that has the full overview of where we are going and what we are doing?
TOBIAS: As you move into this new energy, there is a full entourage, the ones we have talked about, the "runners." There is also your family of the angelic realm. Each of the orders of the archangels is closely watching and observing what happens. So you are surrounded but we would state that our overview is perhaps not what you think it is. It is not that we see the entire map and know exactly what course you are on and can guide you in specific ways. We are learning through you. We have an overview from being on this side of the veil, but you are the ones that are integrating your divinity. We do not understand what that is like to be both walking in human form and integrating divinity. In other words, my friend, we do not always know the answer, although there are times when we have an overview that may be of benefit. And that is why we encourage you to speak to us frequently.
In regard to relationships, this is an interesting area. First you must understand that the relationship that you are in is appropriate at this time. There are no mistakes about this. There is no holding of one (person) or the other back. Now it may be that your partner chooses not to walk in the new energy at this time, and it may be appropriate that only one of you does so first. There could be imbalances that were caused if both went through at the same time. This is not a rule, so to speak. There are couples that will find it appropriate to walk through together, but in many other cases, they provide a counterbalance to each other. If you are in a relationship that is no longer appropriate for your soul, that relationship will change on its own. This is part of the allowing process. There is nothing you need to do, for it will change on its own. The energy will find its own level.
There is the conflict that many have here of what they should do with their relationship, and they are heavily conflicted with this. We will let you know now that inappropriate relationships when one party is in the new energy will resolve themselves. There is little that you will need to do. It may be that a mate comes to another mate one day and says, "it just doesn’t feel right anymore." This is one of the dynamics of the new energy. It will not take your will, so to speak. It will not take your mental pushing on a situation to make it happen. There will be alignments of energy that cause things to happen appropriately.
Now we ask you to, simply in your situation, ask your own internal divine being about the appropriateness of your relationship. Then be patient and know that the answer will come to you. Do not struggle so much in the head. This has been a strong attribute of the old energy, the intellectual struggling back and forth, the evaluating back and forth. This will be difficult for many to initially handle in the new energy. You will not need to do the mental struggle. You will simply need to put out an intent. You will need to put out your purpose. Then all things will fall into place as a result. In your jobs, in your personal lives, you will not need to struggle. You will simply need to accept and allow. This is the first principle of the new energy, as we have said in this classroom. We hope this answers your questions.
QUESTION: Tobias, you spoke of crystals changing. I am wondering if you could let us know, those of us that have been helped by them, how will that change and will we continue to be blessed by their energies in a different way. I would like more clarity, please. Thank you.
TOBIAS: The crystals have been a repository of energies for you in the past. They have held many energies that you yourself could not hold, so there was an affinity for these very precious gems. They have served you well, but as you move into the new energy, do not count on them for your power. As you truly begin to work with your own divine energy, you will, yes, loose the connections that you have with these stones. They were there to serve a purpose at the time but now, my dear, you are being asked, you are being guided to now hold all those energies from within you. There are many that have used or continue to use these outside tools. We name some here, such as the crystals, such as pendulums, such as certain types of flowers and herbs. All of these have been appropriate. We are not asking you to turn from these. We are asking you to recognize that they have been tools of the old energy. In the new energy all things will come from within. Again, this may cause much controversy within you and from others on the outside. There is a tendency to continue using these tools, but those who are truly working in the classroom, working with the new energy, will find it appropriate now to put those down.
QUESTION: Tobias, you talked about the concept of allowing. I find that I work a lot with people. I have to teach them how to allow themselves to be back in their bodies or to be conscious. That is kind of a tall order for a spirit that finds itself with a human ego because, usually what I’ll find them doing, is trying to "do" allowing. A couple of the things that…in terms of clarifying this concept for those of us that are working with this new energy and trying to allow the space for it… because that is what it requires, is space. A lot of what I find – in terms of what directly impacts whether or not someone is able to allow – it seems that where they get tripped up is in self-judgement. There is a judgement, such as, "I’m not doing enough. I’m not doing it right." Another concept is that of being present. Most people are thinking about what they are going to be doing, or what they need to do. They fill their 3rd dimensional time with things to do so that their ego can feel like it’s doing enough, so that it doesn’t have to judge itself. Everything gets filled third-dimensionally and there’s no space. It is not possible for these people to allow. There is no quiet, still space. The mind is always off in the future or in the past or anywhere but now. And it all comes down to my observation of the concept of self-judgement. In order to clarify, my question is around… if you will speak about that core concept of self-judgement, that precludes the allowing, that allows you to be out of third dimension into the new space which is nothing but immense space.
TOBIAS: Allowing is an interesting subject. On our side of the veil allowing is such a natural process that we do not think of it. When you as humans came to Earth, came under the veil and took on a human body, you separated yourself from Spirit. And this was part of the understandings that would come from Earth, the understandings of light and dark. When we speak of the honor that we have for you for the work that you have done, it is because there has been no other creation of Spirit that has ever consciously and purposely disconnected from Spirit. This was part of the energy of Earth, to forget who you were. In doing so, when you became disconnected from Spirit, when you forgot who you truly are, you began to mistrust. You began to rely on your mind and your ego. Your ego then created a new definition of you in the place that was voided by Spirit. Along the way you lost trust. Again, this was a result of the separation that we did not know of.
Now when you are asked to come to a space of allowing, there triggers within you the immediate sense of mistrust. You have tried allowing before in every way imaginable. You have tried allowing goodness and healing and light and abundance to be in your life. You were knocked flat on your butt, so to speak! That is because, my dear, you were working in the old energy that did not provide the proper mechanics for a true allowingness to take place.
Now in the new energy that you are beginning to walk in, allowing comes from trusting your divinity. Allowing comes from trust in your divine nature, in the Christ seed that you came with. As you learn to trust, as you learn to remember who you are and trust self and trust Spirit, allowingness is a natural by-product of this. You cannot force allowingness to happen. It comes from deep within the core of your being. Allowingness comes from letting go of all things. When you let go of all things, when you cross the chasm, as we have talked of, then it begins to open the potential of all things that you are. We have said also in sessions like this to this group that the new divine human that you will transform into is nothing like you could possibly imagine in your mind of yesterday, or perhaps today. You are being challenged to come to a point of deep trusting of Self and Spirit. My friends, what else is there to trust in, other than Spirit and Self?
As you come to this new point of trust, you will also come naturally to this point of allowing. Then it will be… you will be like a river that flows without the dams, without the restrictions. Your mind has been the tool that has tried to barricade or restrict or direct the flow. It is time to simply allow and trust. Allow the natural love and processes of Spirit to guide you. This will be the most challenging part of your entrée into the new energy, this element of allowing. You are quite precise, dear, in knowing that the mind will attempt to set up the mechanisms of allowing, but it will not come from there. Continue to work with this. Continue to work, as we have said, individually and as a group allowing "allowing" to take place.
QUESTION: The subject is the veil. It seems to me, and I appreciate your guidance on this, the fact that I know of the existence of the veil, its usefulness is now gone from me. The question remains, "why is it still there?" Is it simply a part of a contract that we all are part of when we decided to come to Earth and be humans? Or is there is something else that needs to happen first before it can completely disappear or disappear more? What is the root of that?
TOBIAS: That is an excellent question. The veil is created through mass consciousness. Even if you are aware of the presence of the veil, and even if your intent is to dissolve the veil around you, there is still the very strong electro-magnetic structure of the veil created through the mass consciousness. You, as an individual, cannot dissolve your own veil, but together with your intent to reduce it, to clear this fog, and with the intent of the others in this group, and then as you teach the others in your world, the veil will dissolve. Now because of your vibration level at this time, the veil to you individually will have less impact in your life than to an individual who is still walking in the old energy Earth. So, to an extent you do have control over this. But do not become frustrated with trying to break through the veil. Again, this is somewhat of an intellectual exercise. As you increase your vibration and your understanding, and as you allow your divinity to germinate and then to blossom, even though there is the strength of the veil from the mass consciousness, you will be less and less and less affected by it as an individual. But, my dear, we suggest that you do not battle the veil.
QUESTION: First, I would like to thank Cauldre (Geoffrey Hoppe, the channeler) again for his service. My question is about art. What is the connection between art and Spirit? Will it be different in the new energy?
TOBIAS: We will tell a story that we have shared with a few others before. We have used the analogy of God, the Creator, as being the grand painter. And God chose to draw and to paint one day, and created a magnificent painting, like none other that He and She ever created before. It was a beautiful painting. In the heart of God, God wanted so deeply to not just paint the picture but to live within it, to experience it from the inside – not just to create it as an outside element. So God chose to go into the creation, to go into the painting, to live within it and to truly understand the beauty and the depth and the love of the painting that He and She created. God went into the painting and forgot that He and She were God. This allowed the opportunity to truly, truly live within the creation.
That is you, my friends. You are God. You created the painting. Then with the deepest of love and compassion you chose to live within the painting, to forget that you were the painter. So here now you act out your experiences and your drama from inside the painting. But in the new energy you will remember that you are the painter. So, my dear friend, what an excellent question and what an excellent way for understanding the value of art. Look at it the other way around, that you are the painter of All things, that you are merely living within your creation. As you allow the expressions to come forth from your entire being – not just your mind, not just your heart – but from the single energy point… as you allow those expressions to go forth, that will be what you call ascension, that will be once again becoming the painter.
QUESTION: Will there still be cause and effect in the new energy?
TOBIAS: That is also an excellent question. In the new energy there is not the cause and effect that you have been used to in the past. In the past you have called this "karma" at times. You have been playing in the old energy between the energies of light and dark to help understand the balance. In the new energy it is not cause and effect. It is INTENT and CREATION.
QUESTION: I have a question. What you call new energy, I think has been around forever. What is new for me is that it has only been in the last few years that I’ve been consciously aware of how I can create my reality, and that I don’t need to, like you said, rely on tools for healing. I used to do healing work until I came to this realization that healing is allowing, is believing that you are healed, and then you are. So is it really new, or is it just that we have a new awareness of what has always been?
TOBIAS: You and the others that are in this room and reading this material have been working for several years - for many years - in helping to create the initial templates for the new energy, but truly what we define as the new energy has been a very recent creation. It is totally new. It has not been done before. That is what will be challenging for you and what will be wonderful for you. When we speak in our channels to you, when we gather here together with the human, and when we meld with you, a new energy is created. It is not simply that you are coming to our place, or we are coming to yours. Together we are creating a sacred place and a sacred energy. When there was the split in consciousness, in what we call your "Two Earths" recently, this was truly a new energy that had never been created before. But, my dear, you and the others in this room have been working to set up the grids and the structures for this for some time, both in your waking state and in your dreams. It is good that you have been doing this because then you personally will find more balance in this new place.
QUESTION: I would like to hear more about intention and creation. There are the books that say we create with thought, and then there are others, like Gregg Braden, that say it is feeling. Now what you are saying is that it is going to be an all-over, a unity, a oneness, from which we will be bringing forth creation. I get a sense of that, yet I still relate to it as somewhat of a feeling. Could you expound on that?
TOBIAS: This is an area where we do not know the answers. We know that creation will not – full creation – will not come simply from thought. These are old energy characteristics. It did work in your old energy, but it will not have the same effect in the new energy. Your emotions, as we said before, are a fuel or a driving force. It is a combination of your entire being, though, that will make your creations. This is one of the challenges that we put forth to this group to begin experimenting, to begin trying different places of consciousness. We know it will not come simply from your heart or simply from your mind. It will come from an over-all allowingness and desire in your being. It will take some work to begin to find that area.
To use an analogy, when our friend Cauldre (the channeler) began to work with us, it took a while to find the right vibrational frequencies to begin opening clear communications. We did not specifically know how to tell him. It required his experimenting and trying different things. Certainly, he fell to the floor many times before he began to get comfortable with it. It will be like that with the new energy and with new creation. It will take work back and forth. That is why we have suggested the tools of your Internet where you can communicate with each other. Some will begin to find the new pathways. That is why this group is important for you can share and compare. There is not a specific place we can tell you to begin. It is simply intending to be on that course.
QUESTION: I have a question about dreams. I feel like our dreams… that many of us in this room, in fact… many in this room are in my dreams, and it feels like we’re on a mission of some sort, or different missions. Can you give us a little information on that?
TOBIAS: Each that are here, each that will read this, are on, what you say, a mission. Each will interpret it differently in their dreams. Some will feel like they have been working all through the night. Others will feel like they have been sitting in classrooms all through the night. Indeed, my dear, each that is here in spirit, each that we have called the Lost Children of Christ, knows that it is time to come forth. It is time to fulfill their true contract of Earth, of this lifetime. Each of you knows that you will be creating and working with this new energy. So here in particular, for the next three moons, the next three months of your time, there will be continued intensity in the dreams, continued feelings of much pressure and much challenge. But again, that is why we call this the classroom of the new spiritual energy so you can begin working together and define it. In your dreams, in particular, my dear, you are trying to define certain energies that then can be shared with others, particularly, in this group. So, in answer to your question from a personal standpoint, there is a mission that you have.
QUESTION: You have said at some point that depression seems to be an issue for a lot of people now. Could you elaborate on that? It’s not so much depression, but truly feeling lost. Even though I’m very much aware of this new energy and take it as being my challenge, I still feel lost.
TOBIAS: Depression is simply the Self feeling it has been abandoned. There is a feeling of loss and sorrow. It is difficult to explain but your old energy human self has an identity to itself, just like your past lives have an identity to themselves. It is feeling that it is abandoned, that it has died or is dying. That is why many here have gone through the feelings of the death phantom. It is feeling that all of the energy was pulled out from underneath. It is wanting to continue living, continuing its identity but also knowing that it is appropriate to make way for the True Self, the Higher Self, to come in. These feelings are strong and they are real. There are humans who have not been able to work through these, that have chosen instead to return Home. These feelings are intensely strong. These feelings of depression have been intensified lately when your guides began to leave the space they held around you, so there is the additional feeling of abandonment as well.
My friends, this is difficult, what you do. This is playing at the core issue of who you are. The feelings are real. They cannot be overcome simply in the mind. Venturing into this new energy certainly has its hazards from your perspective. It is difficult work. We have come together here in the classroom of the new spiritual energy of Earth. We have joined with you to help add energy, to add love to the work that you are doing, for we know that it is difficult. The one thing that each of you could do that would make the grandest difference in your journey is to not be hard on yourself. There is the tendency to wonder if you are doing the right thing. There is the tendency to beat up on yourself.
We tell you from a place of Truth and a place of Love that you are on the right path, that you are doing the right thing. Release the judgement and walk forth. As our friend Cauldre has said, the worst that could happen to you now is that people will think that you are crazy. From their perspective you may be, but you are dealing with things that are entirely new.
That is why, again we say, this room is filled not just with humans, but with the legions of archangels and Spirit and past lives aspects. They are watching on this day, wondering how events will shape. They are watching you with honor and love, for again all things are being learned through you. The knowingnesses of the new energy are now coming from you. None others have come to this point before.
When there is the feeling of depression, as many of you have experienced, bless this, as difficult as it is, bless it. For it is natural. It is a passing. It will test you at the deepest levels at times. But bless it. Be with family like this, in groups. Correspond with each other. The healers and teachers that you are – help each other. It is a two-way energy, for as you teach and heal others in your family, you are beginning to use your new energies. You are beginning to allow the flow to occur, and at the same time, you are helping another one of family. That in itself helps all. Do not be hard on yourself. Even the strongest of the warriors that are here, do not be hard on yourself. If you become physically sick, if you become depressed – these things are natural. Do not take it as a "sign" that there is something "wrong" with you. Understand that it IS part of the process of moving into the new energy.
QUESTION: Tobias, you have said that you learn through us. I have frequently wondered how Kryon or anyone on the other side of the veil who has never been human could possibly know what we’re going through. You have never experienced the separation or the fear or whatever that we go through. I’d like to know how that is.
TOBIAS: (deeply emotional) I, Tobias, have been in physical form on Earth ages ago. And after many lifetimes on Earth, I chose to remain on this side. I did not have the strength that each of you here has. I did not have the continued ability to be removed from a direct knowingness of Spirit that each of you has. So, I came back to this side of the veil with the commitment and the promise to assist you from here, to be in service to each of you from here. We learn through you. You are the first ones to walk in this new energy. That is why we say to you, "tell us how you feel, tell us what you think, tell us what you need." You are the ones collecting and assembling all the information and the data, so to speak, of what it is like now. We are sitting here on our side of the veil recording this, as it were, looking at it, using it in other places in creation in the universe to set up new energy patterns. You are the ones that are digesting, so to speak. We are the ones that are processing. That is why we encourage each of you that are here to continue. We know that there is the desire to return, but the work that you are doing is important. Through your eyes we see the new day. Through your feelings, we feel it. Through your being, we come to new understandings. Spirit comes to understandings of creation that have never been understood before. That is why when you ask us for the answers many times we simply do not know.
QUESTION: The planetary alignment happening around May 5th of this year – could you speak of the significance of the next three months?
TOBIAS: This will be like a door opening. When this next door opens, behind it will be additional energy resources for you, for all humans. The effects that this group will have from that planetary alignment is the ability to hold even more of your own spiritual energy, your own True Self. These things happen in stages. They are very much a part of the electromagnetic alignments that happen. When these take place, it provides new opportunity for you. In terms of any significant event happening on your Earth at that point – do not anticipate that there will be something newsworthy. The events are quiet. But at the time of this event and shortly thereafter, those that are attuned will feel more empowerment. They will feel focused in their creative ability. They will feel more physical energy, such as needing less sleep. They will have the ability to more rapidly heal their bodies and minds at that time.
QUESTION: I have noticed in the last month or two that people tug on my heart more than they ever used to. And it’s really irritating. I don’t get very sucked into their dramas, but I feel more connected. It’s very disconcerting.
TOBIAS: This, my friend, is part of your own opening, part of your own awareness that you would feel more affected by this. But it is also because many of these humans are in the old energy. They see something different in you, in each of you that is here and reading these words. We know many of you have been noticing this lately, that people are drawn to you. As the seed of divinity sprouts and grows within you, they will be attracted to you. They will not understand what it is, and in their humanness, bless them… in their humanness they will want to own this thing that you have. They see a light in you. They desire to have this within them, but as you know, you cannot give it to them. You can only stimulate them to begin bringing it up within themselves. This will continue and this will be an attribute that you see more and more frequently as you get deeper into the new energy. There will be those that come to you that want what you have. When you tell them that you cannot give it to them, they will… some will have the desire to want to attack you, to find out what you are truly made of. This is where your teaching will become very important, to help teach them that they already own this divinity that they see in you, that they already own it, but they simply need to begin working with it and activating it. This is where each of you will be teachers.
QUESTION: Tobias, thank you for your blessings. May we learn to bless you equally as well. My question is about communications. You say that from your side of the veil you cannot read our thoughts, yet you want to know our thoughts. Do we need to verbalize out loud? Do we need to… can we speak in the form of intention? How can we communicate more clearly so that it lessens the veil?
TOBIAS: When a human chooses to close their thoughts and emotions, it is very difficult for us to read, to look at your energy, for there is a door that is closed. When you talk to us non-verbally, but direct your thoughts to us, then it is like opening the door. Then the communication is possible. When you talk to us out loud, it is not that we need the ears to hear you, but your energy is that much more focused and that much stronger. It is less subject to interpretation from us. As you work with your divinity, as you work in the new energy, your non-verbal communications will now become more powerful than your verbal. But this will take some work, and this is a part of a future classroom discussion that we will have. When your thoughts or your words are directed, then we can read. But when there is a human that is feeling ashamed or guilty or fearful, and they are hiding under an emotional blanket, it is difficult for us to see. It is difficult for us to understand. We can read very general energy patterns surrounding that, but it is only through the permission of the human that we are allowed to come in. That is why it is difficult even for your best readers and your best psychics to look into areas that you have hidden. My friend, you have always been in control. All of the humans here have always been in control. That is why it is difficult to make predictions or to read one’s entire life. There are certainly signs that are there or energy vibration patterns, but if your doors are closed, we cannot come in.
Now, we know our friend Cauldre grows weary. We know the humans in the chairs grow restless. We summarize this by saying that today, in this gathering, was the beginning of the classroom, the beginning of the learning. There will be things that will be new to you, and perhaps contrary to what you have done before. We are here in guidance. The entire entourage that surrounds this circle of humans is large and will continue to support you, to continue to watch. Your runners will be there when you need them. My friends, we close on this night by simply reminding you: do not go back to your old bookshelves to find the answers. All of the answers will come from new places. That is the purpose of this group.
And so it is.